i say, the bob cat worker in north dakota pays a higher tax rate than paris hilton, because she doesn't earn her income. she just lets her money make her money. and we need to figure out a way to equalize those rates. maybe not make them identical, but to equalize them. because this tax structure, when mitt romney pays 15% and the average american, middle class family, pays much higher, there is something wrong with the tax code. and that needs to be fixed. >> what about going back to the old rates? going back to the wealthiest americans, paying almost 40%. what about that? >> i think that, you know, you need to take a look at on what kind of income. to me the discussion is more about rates. it's about what do we apply those rates to and how do we equalize people who make a lot of money on exhale gains versus people who go to work every day and help this economy grow. >> you know, i was back home. i saw the commercials. president obama's not the most popular guy on the prairie. and they were really going after him on obama care. how did you get around that and get the victory. what did